Posted: Apr 2nd, 2012 1:07 PM
this is unherd of', a missuse of power, and a shame for toronto and klal yisroel
looks like knopfler is running this site
this is a bunch of nonsense , the only thing that one can derive from this is someone other than knopfler is having issues with R ' shloma miller.
First of all my name is not knophler and even if it is it does not give any rabbi the right to harass any Jew especially a proselyte, and not to kick them out of their house, and not to persuade people from helping them. And just for your information I did not get any of this from knophler nor did I speak to him. I actually got called by people from Toronto to have mercy on them... And for a final word I'd like to say no 1 here knows what it means to leave a happy family and drop a lifestyle for the truth, and all that just to find out that you're being harassed viciously by a rabbi
A little background please?
never mind if it is knopfler or not, let rabbi miller try to answer al pi halacha if he can
Can someone fill us in with the details?
I feel so bad for this couple. Please help them to make Pesach. For more information and to make a donation call 732-364-8363.
The politics amongst these rabbis is disgusting. A chillel Hashem for Toronto and the Orthodox community.
This is an unfortunate repeat of the same feminist agendas that these rabbis promote.Many so called 'rabbis" hate rabbi Abraham And Rabbi Gestetner for standing up to traditional Halocho and not pandering to the masses that worry about being "politically correct". This is why they try to invalidate their Gittin so they can "eliminate the competition" and control the Bais Din world as they see fit, or to better phrase it they will allow the party that bribes them to win. You can read more about rabbinic corruption at
rabbiniccorruptionatrcc.blogspot.com ; and http://mamzeralert.blogspot.com/
The advertisements are partially blocking the paper on the right side. Any way to fix that please?
enyone who can help these hounted poor people with yom tov expenses, would save toronto from being SEDOM, rabbi miler the rosho, becose his fight with rabbi abraham, unshaimingly insrtucted tomchy shabos and other whelthy men not to give them a penny, can you imagne what hashem thinks about toronto when he see's thair pain. if you can help please call rabbi abraham at 845 352 0532 thank you
rabbi millers' stand is completely against halacha as very clearly explained in rabbi gestetners letter. his shameful stand is a pure POWER STRUGGLE and has nothing to do with halacha or preserving yidishkiet as he tries to picture it falsely, he wants to show rabbi ohrbach from israel who called him if there is no boss in toronto, so he wants to show him that HE IS THE BOSS, and just to prove that, he is ready to destroy toronto and make it SEDOM
Can someone explain whats going on?
i am from Toronto , and i can tell you 3 things
1. r 'shlomo miller has no respectable opposition in the city that would come out vocally against him.
2, aside from a few scumbags , people in toronto do not post such things.
3, Toronto people and R Shloma Miller dont really care what is on a stupid blog site
a. your full of it.
b. if someone from toronto actually did ask you to post this you should know that the city considers him scum
Once again money and politics have played out to victimize the vulnerable. Toronto is known as a big money community with the wealthy controlling the Rabbis...including Rov Miller. Support for the shuls and organizations has taken precedence over helping this unfortunate convert and her husband, even though many of the other leading rabbis in the community privately agree with what is stated in Gestetner's letter. May Hashem help them overcome the evil that they have been exposed to.
DETAILS IN ENGLISH PLEASE!
9:47 well said. The real issue in Toronto with this couple is that they don't have 1000's, or even millions of dollars to buy their way into the community to be accepted. Many men who live here have had heters done with ex-wives to avoid extortion, and have since re-married. Some of these men have their family names on hospitals and schools here - obviously pointing to the reason why they were not chased out of town like these people. Toronto has unfortunately become an elitest gashmius community where only money buys the right to be an accepted Frum Jew. The poor in the community are puppets that are used for "mitzvahs" and amusement, without a care for their true well being beyof the good deed of the moment. A true Jew would not choose to live in such a place of shallowness. I pray that this family will find a new community and live to serve G-d and find happiness.
Please contact rabbi Abraham 845-352-0532 to help this couple as they do not have food and Tomchei Shabbos has refused to help them. URGENT
Thank you, Anon 8:32AM, for your comment "your full of it.".
Your failure to bring even one reasoned, halachic argument which might refute R. Gestetner's letter is proof positive to me:
1. you are an intellectually shallow person
2. since you are unable to reason for yourself, the rabbinic political bosses control your mental processes for you
3. it is you and your so-called rabbis who are really full of it.
hashem bless toronto, they baruch hashem opended thair hart in the last minute, mee k'amchu yisroel! a gutel yom tov
B"H Hashem made a wonderful Yom Tov for this couple! Thank-you to the Toronto Chassidish community!
Whoever supports this couple is supporting the decendents of The Noam Elimelech and will surely be blessed.
This argument is hilarious to read from people that have no clew what they are talking about. Or what the story was!!!!!!!
Reb. Shlomo Miller is a tzaddik, stop the propraganda.
if reb shlomo miller is a tzadik, let him prove it al pi halacha, Nobody is above the torah
Rabbi Miller has a relatively small circle of adherents in Toronto, and specializes in petty politics, no matter who may get hurt in the process. He has done this before in being motzei shem ra on others whom he views as a threat to his little fiefdom. His background, btw, is solidly Mizrachi. While lambasting secular knowlege, at the same time he enjoys basking in the adoration of his supposedly wide-ranging secular knowledge, which, in fact, is somewhat elementary, but his followers wouldn't know that, of course.
You have yet to publish my 2 comments over here, you have a bias against R' Shlomo Miller, and it is evident. Where is your kvod Hatorah? You are being mevazeh Talmid Chachom, which is an apikoires see the Rambam hilchos tshuva.
as a (occasional) critic of Harav Miller ,you can take my word that he has for more credibility here than anybody on the other side
Apr 18th, 2012 12:43 PM
"While lambasting secular knowlege, at the same time he enjoys basking in the adoration of his supposedly wide-ranging secular knowledge, which, in fact, is somewhat elementary, but his followers wouldn't know that, of course."
I dicussed topics with him that were far above elementary,and at least one of his followers is a leading professor.
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