While Toronto achieved the degree of SODOM when accepting the GEYORES they just forgot to smear on honey before they started stinging her from all sides. Perhaps rabbi miller might want to explain to us how exactly he got involved in this case and what were the motives which led him to execute the current terror on the newly married couple
It might be because the husband is married to someone else and they are being oiver the cherem drabeinu gershom.
This blog is the equivelent of Korach (HH & Knofler) V'adasoi (ppl who think it's fest to try to bashmutz R Shloimah)
PLEASE STOP BEING M'VAZAH RABBI SHLOMO MILLER. I'M SURE HE HAS REASONS FOR WHAT HE IS DOING, AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWEAR ALL YOU CONCERNS!
Where's the Psak from the third Beis din??
Ask Knopfler's Bais Din.
Why did the R"Y get 30 Rabonim to sign a completly false letter against Knopfler? Because Knopflers bais din removed a false siruv on Boruch Manes?
The Bais Horoah headed by Rav Miller was established when Rav Miller gave a letter that The R"Y & Staff do not have to submit themselves to any Bais Din "ever".
Rav Fried wrote a long psak countering every shemetz of the Bais Horoah psak that anyone is immune from being subjected to Bais Din.
lets see if rabbi miller will act according torah and admit his mistake
why are the comments not being posted?
Translation please. Thanks.
1)you could look up all the sources which r included in this letter and see for yourself when exactly did rabeinu gershom enforce his Regulations
2)you might consider me as Korach (or maybe even something less), and consider Rabbi miller nothing less then Moshe rabeinu does give him the right to turn Toronto into "Sodom",and by the way i dont think hershel nor knophler saw this post b4 u
Again I asked you to; PLEASE STOP BEING M'VAZAH RABBI SHLOMO MILLER. SURE HE HAS REASONS FOR WHAT HE IS DOING, AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWEAR ALL YOU CONCERNS!
All the Political Corruption in this town goes hand in hand with the Corruption of Bais Din Here in Lakewood. Every thing here in Lakewood is controlled by a few individuals with Family, Money, Power, and Control They will only endorse local Rabonim and only bring in Outside Rabbonim who they can feel assured will never chalange any of their personal intrests or agendas (you can bet your life that If R' Miller were to issue a Psak that threatens any of the above intrests of any of these privliged individuals or groups here in Lakewood they will confiscate his passport and ship him back to Toronto on the first available flight)
W H O C A R E S ! ! ! ! !
Toronto and Lakewood are the evil twins of corruption in the Frum world. If the few VERY WEALTHY individuals in Toronto were to stop supporting Miller's kollel and Lakewood interests, he would not have an ounce of the power and so called status he has. it's all about money. I'm sure if this couple was wealthy and wrote a big enough check to Miller he would welcome them with open arms!
I've been to Toronto and found the community not very nice there. Very snobby and gashmious. And kosher items including food are 3 times the price of Brooklyn. You really have to be rich to live there. Lakewood is home to the kids of the Toronto people.
As we speak Rabbi Miller is trying to impose a total ban on all heter da rabboniums. Great. So more women will extort their husbands for money, more mamzarium will be created, and more sins made. Pride and ego are what destroys a Jew. Miller is the perfect example.
Let me clarify that Thornhill is NOT included on my comment about Toronto. The people are very nice in this community.
If you are a single BT or CONVERT good luck finding a shidduch in Toronto! I have seen first hand the snobbery when it comes to Frum dating in this city. Even with money and a good career you won't make the cut.
according to what your saying if some1 is a mlester then his wife should sit in jail too
so how-come ever since this post no1 bothered to respond nor to apologize
the third Beis Din is Shimry Mishpot which at the moment we don't have a copy yet
I see you don't want to publish my comments, that's ok. I did look up all the places the Beis din mentioned, and obviously it has nothing to do with this case. Like I said, if you are some Beis din, have a problem with the real psak, call up Reb Shlomo, but you guys are to scared to because you know he's right.
Anyone eho is me'vazah a talmid chachom loses his Olam Haba. You're not scard??
As I remove The Lakewood View from my White List (Filter), I'd like to remove myself as well from the CHABURAS LOSHON HORA & MOSRIM that I regret being part of (The Lakwood View).
Return before it's too late!!!!!!!!!!! HELL IS VERY HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Admin,
Is there any way you could get the advertisements away from the text of the first Psak?
Your Comment is Awaiting Moderation.
Jun 7th, 2012 9:32 PM
Details in English please. Is this the Aron Goldberger from Baltimore?
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2006/04/where-in-world-is-aron-goldberger.html
Why won't you publish my comment
It was 3 Rabonim who signed the letter against Rabbi Knopfler (R' Miller,R'Malkiel Kotler and Gavriel Finkel)each for their own personal reasons the rest of the Rabonim were forced to sign it
Moshe please post your last name so I can give u some Toronto hospitality.
Why did the R"Y get 30 Rabonim to sign a completly false letter against Knopfler? Because Knopflers bais din removed a false siruv on Boruch Manes?
The Bais Horoah headed by Rav Miller was established when Rav Miller gave a letter that The R"Y & Staff do not have to submit themselves to any Bais Din "ever".
Rav Shmuel Fried wrote a long psak countering every shemetz of the Bais Horoah psak that anyone is immune from being subjected to Bais Din.
I agree with R' Miller.
I think this was the guys 8th or 9th marrige, he has a riht to disqualify the heter maiah rabbonim.
First of all, the "frum" community in Thornhill and Toronto consists primarily of people from the USA., and while the money to begin the Kollel may have come from Canadians, the people who make up the Kollel came from other countries. As to R. Miller, there was probably a good reason for his decision----. Do not compare USA to Can. There are two very distinct countries.
Did the BOE election results wake them that nobody goes for their genaivas anymore?
In spite of Hertz, they lost their BOE.
Ok everyone rev up your engines for the next phase.
Makiel Kotler went around Lakewood forcing every rov in Lakewood to sign the letter against R Knopfler
Matzav.com and yeshiva world are repoting today about Rabbis in Isreal who are multi million airs (while their followers are destitute and on food stamps and govt aid) satmar kids are Banned from riding bikes what is going on with Judiasm these days i thought Corruption only exists in Lakewood
The Lakewood View was paid off by the ones in power. How much was the payoff? The Scoophad to buckle without a payoff.
R' Miller was matir the famous Giyores from Forest Park. He wrote a letter co-signed by R'Saltz and others that he was Doiresh Vechoiker and she is a Kosher Giyores . Recently she remarried based on his psak.
However, many Rabanim including B"D Mayshorim were mevarer that she was Migayer in Texas by a non-orthodox Rabbi and it is not known if she toiveled in a Kosher Mikvah.
Also, at that time she had several children. It did not state in the letter from when the Geyrus was Kosher. If R ' Miller did his own Geyrus,
Then the children who were Ktanim are Goyim.
Unfortunately, R ' Miller does not explain his psak Biksav, and does not answer questios on his psak biksav. Unlike his attack on Gideon Slifkins book, where he writes long scientific arguments, to dispute the Apikoorishe taanos in the book.
We kindly request from readers of this article to. submit a copy to R' Miller and respectfully ask him to respond Biksav to the many taanos the Lakewood community Bichlal and bifrat, have against him.
these botey din are known to be not reliable they are mills for heter meah rabbonim
show me machon lhorrah
tzedek u mishpat
KAJ
Baltimore
RCC
Maysharim etc.. and we are talking
TLS succumbed, Lkwd local was aways Vaad, Lkwd View is a view from the top by CEO.
“All the hocus-pocus / forever tries to choke us / It’s making such a ruckus / we can barely focus / Davening and driving / eating work and sleepin’ / Why keep on replying / to all the rings and beepin’?”
Instead of searchin google, i'm busy making kugel.
As berel says "stop the hanky panky".
I don't care what you say, Rav Shlomo Miller is a tzaddik gamor. He doesn't have to explain himself to you.
i know aron goldberger from his days in lakewood he is a big yiras shomayim on the other hand shlomo miller is known to terrorise pepole for his own interest and to show he has power he has done this in many cases he is a terrorist in toronto the rabbonim are scared of him when he said he is moving to lakewood awhile ago a toronto rav commented "now the city will run al pi torah not al pi terror"but he still did not leave fully we are hoping and praying for that day to come.
a hopefull toronto resident
"show me machon lhorrah
tzedek u mishpat
KAJ
Baltimore
RCC
Maysharim etc.. and we are talking"
Do you really think that ANY one of these Bottei Din would get involved in a fight with Rav Shlomo Miller REGUARDLESS of what he was doing. If so, you are niaive. Here is a simple experiment. Call these Bottei Din and say that you have PROOF that a Dayan in one of your Dinnie Torah took and EXPLICIT bribe. Ask if they will send a Hazmona. Because they won’t. Some one once called them in that exact scenario. And ALL of them refused to get involved. (That is why Gavriel Finkel is still in business, no matter how twisted he is)
Rav Elyashiv Said that the Halacha stated in the Gemara that someone who is Mevaze a Talmid Chochum is put in Nidui does not apply these days because Talmedie Chachomim these days do not fit the Criteria and status of the Talmid Chochum that the Gemara is refering to allthough i would suspect that Rav Elyashiv Shlita Himself does have the full status of Talmid Chochum that the Talmud is referering to
r miller always backs the kotlers in their crooked ways wonder why
mordechai levy,
who on earth is gideon slifkin?
It is time to send Gavriel Finkel packing let him join his nephew Moshe Finkel from Shevach Chicken in Monsey Maybe they can both move to Toronto and open a Butcher store under Finkels Kcl Hashgacha